However, there will be a resurrection one day of all humanity, a bodily resurrection. So according to Yeshua’s (Jesus”) own words, some will have “many stripes” (Hitler types) and some will have “few stripes” (only God knows). This will happen in the lake of fire (Revelation 20:15) which will be a terrible fate–cremation. However, upon closer examination of the text, it is nowhere to be found. By the time of Yeshua (Jesus), the Valley of Hinnom had been used for centuries by the inhabitants of Jerusalem as their local garbage dump. ” (Matthew 7:13). Both terms also make this a “loathsome” scene. I’m not sure why, but I think it was at that point that I really started to “see the light.”, (Letters from a Skeptic, Dr. Gregory A. Boyd, Chariot Victor Publishing, Colorado Springs, CO, 1994, pages 160, 164, 166 &189 respectively). (Edward W. Fudge, The Fire That Consumes. If you remember nothing else … It was extreme suffering followed by death. If words have any meaning at all then this is what we must conclude. Again, it is eternal punishment, not eternal punishing. The literal meaning is the first meaning used unless context declares otherwise. Now back to Isaiah 66:24. . Were any of the sacrifices tortured forever? Has God ever been “talked out of” something in the past? Conditional Immortality: The Case for Orthodoxy on the Doctrine of Annihilationism - Kindle edition by Tanoto, Tanwin. Those who consider themselves “pro-life” really need to reconsider the logic of their positions if they believe in eternal torture. Why would Jesus make such an offer–to “live forever”–if everyone lives forever? Its duration is supposed co-existent with the period of his natural life.”, (Edward W. Fudge, The Fire That Consumes. Most people don’t realize the many problems that arise from presenting the so called Traditional position. In this verse we have believers, (“they” in verse 24), going out to look upon the very place tradition tells us we will never see. Why Conditional Immortality is true and "perish" really means "perish." Let us think for a moment what we do to murderers in our society. They will be ashes by this time (Malachi 4:3), Notice the Jewish apostle Peter draws this same conclusion, “And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly” (2 Peter 2:6). ), Well, as I told you over the phone, I finally “took the leap.” Hallelujah! Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name” (Philippians 2:8-9). I prayed for discernment, and I have it now. I had always believed the “Traditional” view of the lost until I did a major study. However, Matthew 10:28 is the text through which all other scriptures and their interpretations must be filtered. The rest of humanity, after suffering according to the level of their sins, will be destroyed. The question to be Read more… That is really why it is a punishment to him or her. . While some call it Annihilationism, simply stated, Conditional Immortality is the biblical belief that the immortality of the soul is not inherent (Greek thinking) but conditional (Biblical thinking) upon receiving the gift of everlasting life through faith in Jesus (Yeshua). This was partly as a result of a number of well-known Christian leaders, such … Jesus is saying, there is nothing left alive (functioning) of a person after God’s destruction (in whatever time frame it occurs) has taken place. A great article was written by respected evangelical scholar Clark Pinnock who has come out strongly in favor of this position: The Destruction of the Finally Impenitent. What you believe about the nature of the soul will be the lens by which you view the very important question about the fate of unbelievers. “My mind fails to conceive a grosser misinterpretation of language then when the five or six strongest words which the Greek tongue possesses, signifying “destroy,” or “destruction,” are explained to mean maintaining an everlasting but wretched existence. (Exodus 32:10-14) In a real sense Moses “quenched” God’s anger against Israel. Why the "Book of Life" is exactly that...a Book of Life, Why the “Book of Life” is exactly that…a Book of Life, Your last letter put my mind a bit more at ease about who is going to hell, but it didn’t address the problem of hell itself. When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her.“. “We are told that it is a detestable doctrine and indeed, I too detest it from the bottom of my heart” (ibid. It will die (cease to function anymore) on Judgment Day at the end of the age. 6:16); well doers seek immortality (Rom. [6] While annihilationism places emphasis on the active destruction of a person, conditionalism places emphasis on a person's dependence upon God for life; the extinction of the person is thus a passive consequence of separation from God, much like natural death is a consequence of prolonged separation from food, water, and air. I place them here only for you to see as items of interest. But the Scriptures say that He paid the full debt, and it was not eternal torment, but death. John also tells us that painful sores break out on their body, “And there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.” (Revelation 16:2) This is while they are on the earth. God is pro-life!). Death is the absence of life. Froom claims that conditional immortality was generally accepted in the early church until its thinkers tried to wed Plato’s doctrine of the immortality of the soul to the teaching of the Bible.” [The Conditionalist Faith of Our Fathers, Herald Pub., 1966]. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes.” (Luke 12: 47-48). The line is long and impressive of those championing conditional immortality. It is only for the saved (2 Timothy 1:10). In His day, Gehenna was the Valley of Hinnom just south of Jerusalem. NOTE: Dr. Greg Boyd now holds to the doctrine of Conditional Immortality himself and has come out publicly in favor of it. It will be on Resurrection day that believers only will put on immortality. Paul clearly says they will be destroyed (not preserved) and that the destruction will last forever. Paul said the wicked would be destroyed, “Whose end is destruction” (Philippians 3:19) not eternally tormented. These figures are all employed to depict the fate of sinners at the final reckoning. Again, I cannot state this strongly enough, even unsaved man knows this fact. I was in terrific fear, fighting back “God, why?” So, I prayed, “Let me understand, Lord, for I do not want to question Your righteous judgment!” But peace did not come. They now know that God exists and certainly has the power to raise the dead (after all, they will have just been resurrected themselves). More than that, the death He died was in some true and real sense the sinner’s death,the death required by sin, the death we should have died…The Old Testament prophets spoke of “the sufferings of Christ” and the “glories that would follow” (1 Peter 1:11). A greater desire than wealth, fame, true love or sexual gratification? Scripture clearly states that Adam and Eve lost the chance at immortality in their natural state. It is rather interesting that most believe “death” is the worst punishment you can face on this earth in a court of law, yet do not believe this about Judgment day in God’s court. Therefore, Moses and Paul made a statement of profound love for the people they loved. When we say anything, a plant, animal or person is dead, we do not mean that plant, animal or person is alive and being tormented. Isn’t this a basic rule of hermeneutics? I suppose one might be afraid of Him, but could we love and respect Him? Look at Capital Punishment in theory. But look how Paul frames in immortality uniquely and only with believers: To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. In other words, how is putting them to death really a punishment? Was Isaiah talking about the soul? As proof I propose five sets of arguments (listed in Contents) from the Bible and Church History. Yes, the process itself will include suffering, but the end result according to the Jewish scriptures (the Bible) is destruction, death, cessation of life and thought. . This alone helps explain why some (not all) sinners suffer in this world. They were not saying they would be willing to undergo eternal torment. Conditional immortality is not new — it has been proposed by Christian thinkers almost from the beginning — but it is having a moment in the (gentle, non-fiery) sun. This is testimony to the unchanging, consistent character of God (see Psalm 102:26-27; James 1:17 and Hebrews 13:8). (2 Timothy 1:10, Romans 2:7, John 6:51). “And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.” Daniel 12:2. Humans will perish in the fire, not be preserved in the fire. Peter states that they are an example (2 Peter 2:6) of what will happen to the unsaved. They will not gain life. I saw faces of people I loved, people I knew–burning, withering, and screaming in pain! Babu Ranganathan is a committed Reformed Baptist who holds a B.A. (Ezekiel 18:32). It will affect how you present the good news to an unbeliever. The gospel would not have brought about immortality–since all had it. (see also Malachi 4:3). God only has immortality. Then sometime in the future, the person is resurrected, reunited with … Well, the same Greek word and tense of “worship” (of God this time) is also used in Revelation 11:1 where it is absolutely clear that the “worship” is going on in the present tense upon this earth. It is life itself that we can “keep” or “lose.” As a matter of fact God’s choice to us is always “life” or “death” never “life in bliss” or “life in eternal torment.” He always urges us to “choose life.”, Scripturally, the choice is between destruction (not preservation in torment) and life! This is the Greek word katakaio which means “to burn up; consume.” It signifies to completely, utterly, totally destroy with fire. Evangelical author Edward Fudge gives this passage a well developed exegesis that deserves quotation here: Jesus quotes these words (Isaiah 66:24) in one of His own famous statements about final punishment (Mark 9:48), and they have formed the basis for much Christian teaching on hell ever since. They view their destruction, not their misery. This is exactly what is said in the article on Homepage entitled “Why rarely cited Isaiah 66:24 is a key.” Isaiah tells us that the lost are slain and their dead bodies are burned as well. Because it has deprived the sufferer of every hour of that life which but for it he would have had. It is argued that these passages, along with Genesis 3:22–24 teach that human beings will naturally die without continued access to God's life-giving power. Third of all, this phrase is used elsewhere in “Tenach” (the Old Testament) and is never used to mean eternal torment. Conditional Immortality Conditional Immortality I. Eschatology has two branches, personal and cosmic. The Conditional Immortality Association of New Zealand Inc. is a non-profit organization established to promote a Biblical understanding of human nature, life, death and eternity as taught throughout Scripture. It is the contempt that is said to be everlasting, not persons. This phrase is always used in scripture when people are in danger of facing death, not eternal torture. Yet Paul taught no such thing because Jesus taught no such thing, not to mention the bible they taught from,the Old Testament,teaches no such thing. She will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her. The reviews below were taken from Edward Fudge’s own web site (www.edwardfudge.com) and are about his book The Fire that Consumes. When something is “destroyed” it means something that no longer functions at all. They will die before the LORD, just as assuredly as Nadab and Abihu did. The smoke ascendeth up forever is the forever remembrance of what happened to them. eternal torment) in the Old Testament. During the Reformation, Luther, "Tyndale", and Wycliffe supported the view of conditional immortality. Again, the same thing is said in another evangelical commentary: There is no doctrine of hell (i.e. I realize He is a God of righteousness, holiness and justice, but is eternal suffering justice? Is God trying to intentionally deceive us by using words that have a different meaning than what their plain meaning is? In the first death, only the body is destroyed in the graveyard. In the fire of his jealousy the whole world will be consumed for he will make a sudden end of all who live on the earth.”, REVELATION 18:8-9-“Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her (Babylon): death, mourning and famine. Should this eternal punishment and this fire be extinguished, it would in a great measure obscure the light of heaven and put an end to a great part of the happiness and glory of the blessed.”. This is at the point in time when all in Gehenna (hell) have already died in “body and soul” (Matthew 10:28). Source: Dr. David R. Reagan, Lamplighter magazine, March 2006, Lamb & Lion Ministries, McKinney, TX, John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.”, This is the most quoted verse in the Bible and also one of the clearest accounts on the destruction of the wicked. This is the Greek word katakaio which means “to burn up; consume.” It signifies to completely, utterly, totally destroy with fire. Upon our physical death, according to the majority of conditionalists, we enter a state of soul sleep where we are unconscious. Dr. Boyd’s father considers this issue a stumbling block to his acceptance of God and the gospel. Sadly, Traditional theology wrongly states that the soul cannot be destroyed in clear contradiction to the Lord’s word. The final picture is one of shame, not pain. He was not told that after his death he would be subjected to endless torment. The “wages of sin” will be the sinners” loss of life (death) at the end of the age. After the Resurrection, the death of the body and soul together is called the second death. Surely a God who would do such a thing is more nearly like Satan than like God, at least by any ordinary moral standards, and by the gospel itself. I think the point is a very powerful one for me. Proper hermeneutics demands we compare scripture with scripture. Notice that only one of those emotions lasts forever. These are people who are forced to receive the mark of the beast (Revelation 13:16). “…this mortal must put on immortality.” (1 Corinthians 15:53). However, humans are destroyed there (Matthew 10:28). Therefore, the punishment of the sinner is not preservation in torment, but eschatological death. The righteous view it with disgust but not pity. However, do not believe for a moment that those who hold to Conditional Immortality believe there is no payment for those who have done evil in this life. That is why it is called eternal punishment. Therefore, the proper biblical question is not, “Where will you be in eternity?” but “Will you have an eternity?”, Sadly, most of humanity will be destroyed on Judgment Day. John W. Sanderson Jr., “Review of The Truth about Seventh-Day Adventism by Walter R. Martin,”Westminster Theological Journal 23, no. COLIN BROWN, Fuller Theological Seminary, Pasadena, Calif.: “A very strong case for rethinking the notion of the eternal torture of all the lost.”, F. F. BRUCE (Deceased), University of Manchester, England: “While this subject is one on which there is no unanimity among evangelical Christians, it is at the same time one on which they have often engaged in fierce polemic. (Edward W. Fudge, The Fire That Consumes. There is nothing more than “weeping and anger” that is being said in this ancient phrase “weeping and gnashing of teeth” which has been misinterpreted by tradition. That is the common usage of “apollumi” as “destroy” in the New Covenant writings. [2] In 1520 in response to Bull of Pope Leo X Luther rejected the doctrine of natural immortality. Doesn't Daniel 12:2 say some will face "everlasting contempt"? It is the years of life a condemned murderer is missing out on. Perhaps God will raise them back to life to enjoy the Kingdom they will clearly see in front of them? You will get a reply within 48 hours (hopefully) . I’m teaching a course on Contemporary Religious Movements at Tyndale University College. The Torah teaches us that in the beginning man was banished from the Garden of Eden and forbidden to eat from the Tree of Life, so that he would not live forever, so that he would not be immortal. They are “in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.” This is obviously when they are standing before the Great White Throne of God on Judgment Day and cannot be hell. This is clear because the bible plainly states that the beast originated from the Abyss (Revelation 11:7 and 17:8). A Biblical Study on Human Nature and Destiny, Biblical Perspectives, Berrien Springs, MI 1997, p.193). Thankfully, Dr. Boyd shared this option with his father and his father is now going to have immortality because of it. Questions and major problems for those who hold to the eternal torment position. The souls of all men are born indestructible? It is obvious that the unsaved have the shame emotion. This scripture is not to be given any theological “spin” to its meaning. They will indeed be tormented forever; however they are not humans. So does the Traditional view of the lost, as eternal conscious torment, fit the bill? The setting is clearly eschatological. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. (see Ezekiel 10:7). The Greek tense is in the future. Peter tells us the lost will become ashes (2 Peter 2:6). Isaiah 66:24 states “And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.”. This verse is used constantly to prove the Traditional view. What an awesome experience the first few weeks were! . However, they will first suffer, in proportion for their sins. He took the punishment we deserve. Yes, they will indeed have “no rest,” but when will this happen? No, they will be told they will miss out on the joy of being alive forever. If Jesus is quoting Isaiah, shouldn’t we read Isaiah too? Certainly the fact that we, as believers, will go out and “look upon” these dead bodies in Gehenna (hell) must make us change the paradigm by we see the fate of the lost through. Where is the book, chapter and verse for it? The first death is temporary. I heard a preacher on the radio say that they go to heaven and grow to adulthood and become the person they should have been. Again, I repeat the keen observation of that great evangelical commentator, John R. Stott, when he states: “it would seem strange…if people who are said to suffer destruction are in fact not destroyed…it is difficult to imagine a perpetually inconclusive process of perishing.”, (J. Stott and D. Edwards, Essentials: A Liberal-Evangelical Dialogue, London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1988, p. 316). There is a gift we get from believing the gospel; it is called “everlasting life” (John 3:16). Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. **, Why Traditional theology is biblically wrong about the first century phrase "gnashing of teeth", Why Traditional theology is biblically wrong about the first century phrase “gnashing of teeth”, Answering the critics and supposed scriptures that teach otherwise. The Hell Project 482 views. (Revelation 20:15) This is what the scripture calls the “second death.”. They could live indefinitely as long as they had access to the Tree of Life. C.S. Immortality is only for a select few-those who are born again (“who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel” 2 Timothy 1:10). The Conditional Immortality of the Soul (part 1) I want to explain and defend my view of the soul, God's Infinitely compassionate nature, and what I believe is a heresy that has crept into the Church's Theology through the Greek Culture and Religious mythology. That’s all God cannot do. Also, in regards to suffering, scripture seems to indicate that what the lost have suffered here on earth, for their sins, may actually count as partial payment then (Isaiah 40:2). This immortality, or everlasting life, shall then be put on at the second coming of Christ and the resurrection of the … Acts 7:54–When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. We can either do it our way or God’s way, it is our choice. This is in contrast to “Natural Immortality,” the currently dominant view that every person will exist forever. Sodom and Gomorrah are a supreme type given by Peter and he says “And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample” (2 Peter 2:6). That is what Peter meant in saying that Jesus “bare our sins in His own body.” This is what is meant that Christ’s death was vicarious…To use familiar language, Jesus suffered hell for His people,the very hell they would have suffered had He not taken their place. [citation needed]. Therefore, how can anyone “rest day or night” when they have painful such sores on their body and are forced to worship the beast? Sadly, this is the same lie being told today, that everyone lives forever. However, this topic is very important and the wrong answer can put up unnecessary stumbling blocks to the unsaved and even to believers. Wright noted that 1 Timothy 6:15–16 teaches "God… alone is immortal," while in 2 Timothy 1:10 it says that immortality only comes to human beings as a gift through the gospel. Notice, Peter says two things about the fate of the ungodly: A) They are an example for us to see what awaits the ungodly. How can Christians possibly project a deity of such cruelty and vindictiveness whose ways include inflicting everlasting torture upon His creatures, however sinful they may have been? But the statement to them of their “eternal punishment” (Matthew 25:46) will remove all hope from them. Conditional immortality as a label became popular in the nineteenth century for its ability to more holistically describe a view many Christians know as annihilationism. The rest of humanity, after suffering according to the level of their sins, will be destroyed. If eternal torment is true, then clearly it would have been better for most everyone not to have been born (since the majority will not be saved) (Matthew 7:14). In the mid-1980s, he began his pursuit of a law degree, which he earned from the University of Houston Law Center in 1988. ), You said it about as forcefully as it can be said. It is important to look carefully, therefore, at what the verse actually says…. 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